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			<title>CD Baby boast about sales and then trash half your CD\'s</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/517-cd-baby-boast-about-sales-and-then-trash-half-your-cds#comment-615</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Joe says: &quot;I am getting really dissapointed with their treatment of musicians,a few of my collegues were warned against using their services for distributing music to itunes etc,in that they were not paying artists what they were due and were not listing sales and accounting correctly.Also, one collegue,found his music for sale on amazon.com,saying that the retailer bought music from cd baby,which was strange as my collegue never had physical Cd\'s for sale.I wont use them for my music distribution in the future,somethin g is not right with this company.Someone needs to look into this.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 02:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>CD Baby boast about sales and then trash half your CD\'s</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/517-cd-baby-boast-about-sales-and-then-trash-half-your-cds#comment-614</link>
			<description><![CDATA[CDBaby nomore says: &quot;I received the \"overstock notification\" after having sent CDBaby exactly the number of CDs they had requested last year. I only had 4 in stock, so I let them be destroyed since I didn\'t know what The Suits would charge me for returning them. No doubt quite a bit in \"shipping and handling.\" One month later, I received another notification: Congratulations ! You\'ve sold enough CDs through CD Baby that our all-knowing inventory management computer wants you to know that we need more discs to satisfy anticipated demand. They ordered 1 (one) CD. No, Suits, I\'m not going to be sending you 1 CD at a time, especially since you\'re now undercutting my price on Amazon. I\'d rather sell directly to the customer myself.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>CDBaby nomore</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 17:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>ArtistLaunch Radio Show Ep6 - Nad Sylvan/Genesis Revisited Interview</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/529-artistlaunch-radio-show-ep6-nad-sylvangenesis-revisited-interview#comment-613</link>
			<description><![CDATA[camera says: &quot;bloody brilliant 8)&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>camera</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>ArtistLaunch Radio Show Ep6 - Nad Sylvan/Genesis Revisited Interview</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/529-artistlaunch-radio-show-ep6-nad-sylvangenesis-revisited-interview#comment-612</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Paul Laginess says: &quot;What an enjoyable hour plus of great banter, hearty laughs, tons of heretofore unknown info, and a fabulous cross-section of Nad Sylvan\'s wonderful music. Thanks for the kind words directed my way Nad. So glad you\'re my friend and I look forward to seeing you again, hopefully multiple times this year. Enjoy the cruise and all the upcoming dates with Steve. Prog rock fans are really in for a treat when they see and hear you. Kudos also to Nev and Gordon for pulling the whole thing together. Glad I could help in my small way.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Paul Laginess</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>ArtistLaunch Radio Show Ep6 - Nad Sylvan/Genesis Revisited Interview</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/529-artistlaunch-radio-show-ep6-nad-sylvangenesis-revisited-interview#comment-611</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Jethro Tuller says: &quot;:-) having a blast listening to this.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Jethro Tuller</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>ArtistLaunch Radio Show Ep6 - Nad Sylvan/Genesis Revisited Interview</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/529-artistlaunch-radio-show-ep6-nad-sylvangenesis-revisited-interview#comment-610</link>
			<description><![CDATA[progger says: &quot;Excellent. very enjoyable interview&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>progger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>The Smitten Ones - Cloak &amp; Dagger</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/live-performances/526-the-smitten-ones-cloak-a-dagger#comment-608</link>
			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Excellent British band, signed to twister records... get all the information you need on their facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/thesmittenones&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 17:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Modern Gaming: Buying Fake Followers and Likes.</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/inquisitor/524-modern-gaming-buying-fake-followers-and-likes#comment-607</link>
			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;It seems reverbnation are the latest OMD to have problems with stat manipulation. https://www.facebook.com/alnetwork/posts/144604915701020?comment_id=299728&notif_t=share_comment&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>CD Baby boast about sales and then trash half your CD\'s</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/517-cd-baby-boast-about-sales-and-then-trash-half-your-cds#comment-605</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Phil Donald says: &quot;Thought I\'d add that I was asked by CD Baby to trash or return the CDs for my first album. Well, last week I sold a copy to a record shop in Connecticut I presume CD Baby will pick up the cost to burn a CD and send it to the client.........&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Phil Donald</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>CD Baby boast about sales and then trash half your CD\'s</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/517-cd-baby-boast-about-sales-and-then-trash-half-your-cds#comment-604</link>
			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Here\'s a final comment about all this. cd baby did not publish anything about \'recycling cd\'s\' in their forum/blog or anywhere else on the internet. And they have most of the internet music press eating out of their hands. This was negative press that they attempted to sweep under the carpet. After an artist has forked out to have un-sold cd\'s returned to them leaving in most cases 1 or 2 still stored, they will have to fork out again if their fortunes change and those cd\'s are sold because they will have to send the cd\'s back to cdbaby. Once you take into account the carbon footprint of all these cd\'s being redelived time and time again, many having to be flown overseas, it could cancel out any gains to the environment recycling. I don\'t think there is much point in an independent artist selling cd\'s on cdbaby anymore. They would be better to sell them from smaller retailers and use the bigger companies for digital distribution or do the paperwork themselves and go straight to the source... itunes.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 17:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>CD Baby boast about sales and then trash half your CD\'s</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/517-cd-baby-boast-about-sales-and-then-trash-half-your-cds#comment-603</link>
			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Ultimately they made me take back 17 out of 18 cd\'s they had of mine. They were going to destroy those 17 cd\'s... I now have 1 cd at cdbaby... what is the point of ever using them again?&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 08:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>CD Baby boast about sales and then trash half your CD\'s</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/517-cd-baby-boast-about-sales-and-then-trash-half-your-cds#comment-602</link>
			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;I\'m not sure if this clears up the confusion or not but here is my reply from cd baby customer services. I just don\'t feel like I have a comfort blanket at cdbaby anymore, if such basic errors are occurring with such a small quantity of cd\'s I hate to think what could be going wrong with the very complicated system that is buying/selling and logging the stats of digital distribution. And artists have no way of knowing if any of those stats are real or not... ***************   ***************   ***************   ***************   ******** This took a bit of digging, but now I\'m certain why you are seeing what you are seeing in your account. Prior to 2009 we were running different software, and in that platform, we initially stocked 49 units in out inventory. At the time we switched programs, we had sold 30 units leaving 19. As far back as I can see in the new database, we never received any additional copies and so were still working with the same 19. You sold one copy on October 22, 2011 leaving us with 18 copies. We sent back 17 of those 18 leaving one in our inventory. This means the figure is correct. There does seem to be a glitch in your accounting overview in that when you click on details, it is taking you to payment history instead of the details of that payment. The actual details should reflect that it was a shipping charge for the 17 overstocked units shipped to you via USPS International Air, a payment of $42.79. I hope this clears up the confusion! All the best, Phil CD Baby&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 08:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>CD Baby boast about sales and then trash half your CD\'s</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/517-cd-baby-boast-about-sales-and-then-trash-half-your-cds#comment-601</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Jonny ReQuest says: &quot;Tony, I\'m wondering if CD Baby would consider changing its requirement that artists send in five CDs with each new album submission. It would be nice for artists to have the option of just sending in two, one for you to open and rip the music from and one for your warehouse. That would slow the expansion of merchandise and save money for those of us who don\'t sell many CDs. Personally, I\'ve started submitting download-only albums and singles, but your site discourages that in several places. CD Baby strongly suggests people send in CDs, but this is at odds with the reality of not having space for them. You could add a caveat to that part of the website, something like \"but if you really don\'t expect to sell any CDs, download-only is just as well.\" It won\'t hurt our feelings. We know who we are.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Jonny ReQuest</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 05:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Taj Weekes - Anthems Of Hope</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/independent/523-taj-weekes-anthems-of-hope#comment-600</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Reggae Sauce says: &quot;Totally Chillin.. 8)&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Reggae Sauce</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Taj Weekes - Anthems Of Hope</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/independent/523-taj-weekes-anthems-of-hope#comment-599</link>
			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;A beautiful haunting tune, reggae at it\'s best.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Cherri Bomb - Shake the Ground</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/510-cherri-bomb-shake-the-ground#comment-598</link>
			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Unfortunately it now seems Cherri Bomb have parted ways with Julia, their manager and Hollywood Records... We hope to get some more news on this soon...&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 17:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>CD Baby boast about sales and then trash half your CD\'s</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/517-cd-baby-boast-about-sales-and-then-trash-half-your-cds#comment-597</link>
			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Paul\'s contact page on artistlaunch is: http://www.artistlaunch.com/component/contact/12-artistlaunch-management/1-paul-laginess I will also contribute to any lost money that is owning to artists who signed up to AL before 2007. After Moses ran away and destroyed everything AL has been a non-profit organisation, we do not charge artists or viewers for a single thing on our website. The promotion is free, the people who write regular articles are not paid, they do it because they support independent artists and music. Neville Meredith.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 16:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/517-cd-baby-boast-about-sales-and-then-trash-half-your-cds#comment-596</link>
			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Paul Laginess commenting: It\'s true that I didn\'t do a great job of reaching out to AL artists when I turned the site over to Moses back in \'07. A guy that seemed to have a decent vision and the energy to make a go of things turned out to not be up to the task at all and what had been Artistlaunch to that point was pretty much toast. All that was left at the end of that escapade was a domain name and that was returned to me. What I didn\'t have was a reliable way to contact AL\'s artists from my days as manager after I had turned the site over to Moses. That was a mistake on my part and I do regret it. Since that time, what you see of AL now was entirely built by my partner, Nev Meredith, and my hat is off to him for making something of the site. I\'ve had very little time to bring anything to the table to this point but in the coming months and years I hope to be much more involved. I do want to say that I still have hundreds of CDs here that were submitted for sale by former AL artists. Also, I still have records of what was sold at iTunes through the digital distribution program we had. And, I still have all the master discs that were submitted by artists for whom we manufactured CDs. If you are one of those artists (Michael Sky), you can message me from my Facebook page or use the contact link at Artistlaunch.com. I\'ll be happy to return the CDs or master discs of any former AL artist at my expense. And if there is any money owed I\'ll do my best to nail down what that amount is and pay up, no matter how tiny the sum. And if by making that offer, it suggests that I agree with Nev, and very much disagree with what is happening at CD Baby, that suggestion would be accurate.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 23:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;As they are now such a massive company and saturated with bands the least they need is a bloody good back end where the updating and number crunching on peoples accounts actually works. The whole admin section is now so complicated you need a degree in mathematics to try and figure it all out.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 13:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Denis Mahony says: &quot;Either somones not paying attention to Wat going on on the comps or they\'re purposely making it difficult as you\'re standing firm. Iffy&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Denis Mahony</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 13:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>CD Baby boast about sales and then trash half your CD\'s</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/517-cd-baby-boast-about-sales-and-then-trash-half-your-cds#comment-593</link>
			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Customer Support: Before December 2012 we had 33 cd\'s being stored by you, in December we requested 17 of those to be returned to us not recycled. This was eventually completed a week ago although we have not received the cd\'s. Our inventory is now showing 1 cd in the warehouse. Where have the other 16 cd\'s gone!? Please check your inventory/computer database and find those cd\'s and change to the correct amount in the inventory page. Also in the transaction page there are two entries which are incorrect. Both are for the delivery charge for the 17 cd\'s. They show: Jan 28, 2013 Vendor Payment $42.79	details Jan 28, 2013 Miscellaneous Vendor Transaction ($42.79)	details And then when you click on links you get this, which is a transaction from when you lost $54 from our account and upon us complaining you reinstated it. Even the payment date is wrong, it\'s listed as 2005 which is completely the wrong year. Payment Date:	Tuesday, March 15, 2005 Payment #:	239106 Amount:	$54.00 Method:	paypal TRANSACTIONS REPORT DATE DESCRIPTION AMOUNT Mar 15, 2005 album $54.00&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 12:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;The admin area of my cd baby account is now telling me I only have 1 cd in the warehouse and they have returned 17 to me, which i paid for, when in fact there should be 17 cd\'s still in the warehouse with 17 returned to me as I had 33 cd\'s stored there before December 2012. So what has happened to the other 16 cd\'s !! This type of screwing around with your customer, making money and cd\'s disappear and reappear should just not be happening. I don\'t want to leave cd baby but what do I do when they continue to make such blatantly stupid cockup\'s with my account! Now I have to use customer service to ask where my 16 cd\'s have gone and why the postage amount on my account is showing a completely different figure to what it should be...&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 12:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Brian David Vaughan says: &quot;@Artistlaunch: Everything you have been saying totally rings true with me. The new \"policy\" of C.D. Baby has put me where I was before joinging them more than 10 years ago, right back into selling C.D.s by myself. Of course I\'m looking into digital download sales instead.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Brian David Vaughan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 10:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>CD Baby boast about sales and then trash half your CD\'s</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Matt Mathews says: &quot;Downloads are here to stay, but what the listener doesn\'t realize (Doesn\'t care)?, is the fact that your really getting ripped off from the stand point of Sound Quality! Of course, only we, the musicians can appreciate that fact. Go Buy the CD and get the real thing!! Just saying****&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Matt Mathews</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 10:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/517-cd-baby-boast-about-sales-and-then-trash-half-your-cds#comment-589</link>
			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;I agree with what you say but this has more to do with the way cdbaby have gone about this change by introducing it via the back door with an email and giving those artists only 4 weeks to decide to have them returned or destroyed. And the fact that many artists did not find out until after reading this article and then discovering it had already happened to them without even receiving an email. Those cd\'s must still be the property of the artist and for those who paid for them to be stored and distributed when Derek owned the company it was not on a sale or return basis. Cdbaby needed to consult artists who had larger amounts pre disc makers days and discuss options. It\'s like governments who always introduce unpopular laws and bad press during global disasters so that its swept under the carpet and not reported. It coinsided with the drop in the cut they take for dd, which they hope is positive press but unfortunately the winning the recycling prize award could not have come at a worse time because obvious connections were always going to be drawn to what they were doing with artist cd\'s. also I feel it\'s unfair for artists who only have very small amounts of cd\'s to be included in this scheme. And I don\'t understand why the artist can\'t decide to sell them for free via cdbaby, customer pays postage. That should at least be an option.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[W Todd Levinson says: &quot;People still make cds in this day and age? Why bother? Digital albums are the way...people\'s expectations about selling physical cds are way too high, as they are becoming a dinosaur like cassettes,album s,and 8-tracks. I am sure there is a limited amount of warehouse space at cdbaby,and stuff that doesn\'t sell is just taking up space. I remember the early days of cdbaby, as they started in Woodstock,N.Y.,and I knew the owner,as that is where I ran a studio. He\'d be able to go to the post office every day by himself to mail orders. I\'m sure it is different now for sure,but overall cd sales are diving, so digital distribution makes more sense.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>W Todd Levinson</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Denis Mahony says: &quot;Well done Artistlaunch get stuck into them, small indie unknowns need looking after&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Denis Mahony</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Julia Plumb Quinn says: &quot;Jane Dollyberg didn\'t you use CD baby at one point??? Interesting to get your perspective on it Jane....xx&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Julia Plumb Quinn</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Brian David Vaughan says: &quot;Oh, yeah! I almost did a blog post on this situation, I guess I should have. My project, S.N.OT. (Strictly Nosehairs On Tap) only had 4 C.D.s. in stock with C.D. Baby, & I got an \"overstock notice\" from C.D. Baby on 12-3-2012 telling me to pay for postage to get them sent back to me or they would destroy them at no charge (huh? WTF?!). 3 fucking C.D.s worth! I paid the postage & got them back, I\'m giving them to friends since I can\'t sell them *there*. When I got them back, I surprised myself with the quality of work I had done, these things look & sound professional, & I was doing \"handmade\" before Rhino records was, I think. They have made it very obvious that C.D.Baby isn\'t Derek Sivers company any more, they have become bean counters, like the big labels. Might as well supply the tunes here!: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandid=329839 SoundClick artist: Strictly Nosehairs On Tap - A loose joining of unlikely members from different co www.soundclick.com A loose joining of unlikely members from different countries, backgrounds & levels of sanity (or lack thereof). If it weren\'t for that tour bus having 4 flat tires at once, this couldn\'t have happened!&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Brian David Vaughan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;And let me return to the point: For people who signed up before disc makers took over cdbaby there was no limit on how many cd\'s you could have stored, within reason. We did not sign up for a sale or return agreement. We paid cdbaby to look after our cd\'s and distribute them when ordered either via cdbaby\'s website or through an agreed third party. And we were promised they would help promote the cd\'s on cdbabys website. And this is exactly what they did, the $5 deal worked amazingly well for many artists, as did the featured cd section. We never had any hassle, hardly ever needed to use customer service because we knew it was being taken care of. They may now have an agreement whereby they limit the amount of cd\'s you send them. But that is now and does not take into consideration the artists that signed up and released albums prior to disc makers taking over.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Because of you Mr StressyBollucks 6,559 people on facebook have now seen this post and I\'m only halfway through my ad campaign. You cant even tell us who you are, what your name is. We know sometimes your posting comments from Noel Ramos, maybe your posting for that idiot from mp3.com days, Father Time or Scott or whoever he was. Lets have a look at a couple of the comments being made on other facebook pages, I have excluded the peoples names. That\'s some lousy policy. I buy most of my independent band releases (as physical cds with an immediate download) through Bandcamp whenever possible. I have always found CDBaby to be much more expensive than Bandcamp or local record shops. I am also guilty of buying through scamazon though. (holds head in shame) \"Like many of you, I received this notice a week ago or so. Of course two days ago I received noticed of several sales. I\'m confused. Thanks for posting\"&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;I disagree with everything you say in that post. This thread would have been closed after I had wrapped up with Tony but you insisted on coming back and having another dig. Its your fault so many people are getting to hear about this if you had not of continued to be such an obnoxious twat I wouldn\'t have taken out a promotion on the facebook post. I did warn you... you are the one who is now damaging cdbaby and the more you fight me the more people are going to see this post. Continue to wind me up and I\'ll be taking out a full facebook ad warning people to check their cdbaby account in case they have recycled their cd\'s. And be my guest take out a libel case against me.. I\'ve already contacted a music lawyer to look into what cdbaby are doing to see whether or not those cd\'s are the artists property or cdbaby\'s as cdbaby never bought the cd\'s from the artist, so if they destroy them they are destroying somebody\'s property and that could be illegal. It may not be but I\'m still going to investigate. So just remember Mr Anon Stressbucket you are making all this happen.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Mr Stressy Pants says: &quot;YOU wrote: \"cdbaby update: they are now winning prizes for trashing your cd\'s.\" That\'s a lie. YOU wrote: \" CDbaby are nothing without Derek Sivers... A sham of a company.\" That\'s a pointless insult AND a lie. You spit out: \"Well we think CD Baby can go fuck themselves and we advise independent artists to remove their music from this company that boasts about huge profits and then punishes the low earning artist community by holding their CD\'s to ransom.\" That\'s all lies, vulgarity, and libel. Then you wrote: \"So lets be clear, cdbaby consider independent artists cd\'s as waste that need to be disposed of, something to be cracked down on, they even win prizes for it...\" LIES. You wrote: \"And the point is you did not inform the artists, or discuss it with them.\" That\'s not true either. You also promised: \"We are not going to continue bashing cdbaby it\'s counter productive.\" 50 more comments from you later... ANOTHER obvious lie. And just now you DENIED lying! Itself just another lie. There\'s so many more, but if I go back and copy/paste all of them, I\'d basically have to \"regurgitate\" this whole thread. If you DO manage to start some sort of competitive distributor, (which I sincerely doubt will happen,) I pity the artists foolish enough to sign up with a compulsive liar.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Mr Stressy Pants</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;I don\'t know what you mean about clicks and as I have proven I am one of the artists this has affected I have a right to voice my concerns. Also I have not lied about anything I have stated the facts as I see it and the many people who contacted me and if I am wrong about anything I will stand up and own up. Whereas you are still hiding behind a false name and simply regurgitating. So tell us who you are and why you are so concerned about cdbabys rep. As for competition yes one day artistlaunch will be a competitor again. I have already said that but we have no immediate plans we are simply an entertainment channel, fanzine blog whatever&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Annoyd Stressman says: &quot;Doesn\'t all of this really just boil down to simple CUSTOMER SERVICE? Couldn\'t all of these issues have been easily resolved thru proper channels... y\'know by contacting CD Baby customer service? Tony himself popped in here and spent a surprising amount of time answering questions so I can\'t imagine that you\'d get anything less if you contacted them directly instead of starting a pointless smear campaign. Did this situation REALLY require an unnecessary public mudslinging campaign full of false claims, lies, insults, and vulgarity? This is all a non-issue Neville, and you\'re still just milking this fake controversy you created for all the clicks you can get. Unfortunately this kind of traffic is probably only harming your reputation, not helping it. If you are trying to set yourself up as a CD Baby competitor, proving that you\'re willing to totally lie about them isn\'t going to create an image of trustworthiness for artistlaunch.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Annoyd Stressman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[JoshuaandElizabeth M says: &quot;Yup, they recently just trashed a handful of my CDs. A painful reminder of their paltry sales.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>JoshuaandElizabeth M</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;We are now hearing some people who upon reading our article checked their account and discovered they have a batch due to be recycled but never received the email. This really isn\'t good enough. You know what emails are like, half of them end up in your spam folder. Cdbaby have to make a better attempt at contacting any artist who\'s cd\'s they are going to recycle. Surely they need the permission of the artist first before they damage property that from what I can make out isn\'t the property of cdbaby.. I think any cdbaby artist reading this article need to check their administration area at cdbaby and look under inventory and see if they have any cd\'s scheduled to be recycled and then check the sales stats to see how many they sold in the last year.&quot;]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Miche Fambro says: &quot;I responded to this email, asking how many of my Cd\'s do they have? They haven\'t got back to me yet...&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Miche Fambro</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Correction transaction now reads $42.79 but when you click the link details it says $54 the stats and transactions page was always so much simpler when Derek ran it. In fact the whole site was better navigated and cleaner to look at. Cdbaby already managed to lose fifty dollars for me which I pointed out and they returned. It\'s taken 5/6 weeks to get a email saying the discs are ready to deliver. It will take whatever time to get across the pond. If I was a customer I think I would have got the cd\'s in less than a week.. From a personal point of view what\'s the point in me using cdbaby again ? They don\'t appreciate my business and I obviously don\'t make them enough dosh so I may as well go elsewhere and leave them with the elite high earners. And that has been the gist of most of the emails I have received.&quot;]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;There is an easy conclusion to all this. That there is room for a competitor to cdbaby distributing physical media and providing digital distribution with promotion. The unwanted overspill from cdbaby will be much easier to find on a new competitors site and I believe the majority of artists music from those who complained to me is of a very good standard. From what I see of the competition it is all too complicated, too time consuming and they don\'t actually really do anything for you other than take your money. You\'d be better off doing it yourself.&quot;]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Ok you tell me who you are and what your name is? In my transaction page it says $53.. I am being honest and I am being civil... I am being me, and I don\'t change my tune or act differently for anyone. What you see is what you get, take it or leave it, I\'m not going to change and all the other cliches to that effect.&quot;]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Annoyd Stressman says: &quot;Pot, Kettle called... You want to discuss this with civility? Then set the example. You want to discuss this with HONESTY? Then set THAT example too. Did you really have to pay FIFTY BUCKS to get 17 discs sent back to you?&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Annoyd Stressman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;comments like this make me even more determined to push this topic further as it\'s opening some obvious snobbery that\'s developed in the indie community. You see this type of language in hate crimes, race crimes and class wars. To see it used against other musicians is very sad... it\'s not used to emphasize a point it\'s just used to abuse... &quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;And yes I am one of those artists on cdbaby that just had to have 17 copies of a cd I released in 2004, 9 years ago returned to me at a price of nearly $50 and I\'m fucked off about it. And so are 32 other artists who have emailed me since this was introduced. I sold no cd\'s in 2012, the first year I hadn\'t sold any, that\'s actually not that bad for an album released in 2004. Considering it gets good digital distribution that\'s fine but cdbaby is saturated and there is no avenue to promote on there anymore. However, my band are reforming and releasing a new album. This may be successful in which case people will look to buy a bands back catologue. That\'s no good if it\'s not available on demand. I did not sign up to cdbaby on a sale or return basis, I expected to be informed in advance about the changes. I expected cdbaby to give me more time to make a decision than 4 weeks and just before xmas when money is tight. I expected better from a company I have openly supported since it\'s incarnation. And before artistlaunch was destroyed by Moses Dos Santos or whatever the bastards name was, AL supplied many cd\'s to cdbaby and also supported the amazing company Derek Sivers gave us all.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;This thread is turning into some kindof hard sell manual for the type of egotistical maniacs who consider music to be a commodity. Something to be used to profit, that is not what it\'s all about. I work with musicians all over the world and most of them are doing it for the love of the music. They play gigs locally, they sell cd\'s to people at those gigs, they network, they have an online presense. And they are happy with that... not everyone wants to be a superstar. Not everyone wants to go to conferences and be given a lecture on 100 ways to hard sell your fans into submission so as to get as much money out of them as possible.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;I am not Dave or Bruce my name is Neville Meredith and I\'m not denying anything. artistlaunch are living proof of what happens when the wrong people end up in charge of a company, I was an artist at AL before that, I left when Moses took over AL, I started a campaign for artists behalf about this very issue on a forum called all seeying eye, including reporting artistlaunch to the bbb. Then the owners disappeared and trashed the whole site and database. The original owner Paul Laginess fortunately had the domain name registered in his name. I took on a website that had nothing, no artists, no music..nothing. We then did allot of apologising and started rebuilding by concentrating purely on a music publication type website. So you can dig as much as you like and bring up that episode in AL\'s history for as long as you want, it won\'t change anything. And I won\'t let you change this thread off the topic in hand anymore. Post about it again and I will delete it. If you have an issue with artistlaunch start your own damn campaign on your own facebook page and entertain your 18 friends that you have on it.&quot;]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Annoyd Stressman says: &quot;\"WHAT IS ARTISTLAUNCH ? HISTORY: ArtistLaunch was established in 1999 and became an Online Music Distributor akin to mp3.com and the like. It had a CD duplication service & CD catolgue (similar to cd baby), podcasting facilities, personalized radio stations, digital distribution and regularly put on showcases of artistlaunch artists. In 2007 the company changed hands but the new ownership were unsuccessful in continuing to compete with there OMD competitors and ultimately gutted the site and it\'s membership. In Oct 2008 the AL domain was returned to it\'s owner and radical changes were made... out with everything AL once was and in with an open book... Maybe Michael Sky should write an article entitled: \"Artist Launch Takes Your Money and Your CDs But Never Pays You\" So, which one are you, Dave or Bruce? You owned it once, then you didn\'t, now you do again, but anyone who got stiffed while you were gone is out of luck. Is that how it works? Sorry Michael, apparently artistlaunch is too busy attacking their competitors to give a damn about their customers.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Annoyd Stressman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Tony Robinson says: &quot;lol I\'m not talking to EVERY indie artist on CD Baby. I\'m talking to the ones complaining about the indie position or CD Baby protecting their business model. I don\'t hard sell either, but I do position my products to be sold because that\'s my industry. I\'ll die for my music cause that\'s my passion. If I don\'t sell my product I don\'t eat or pay my bills, or get that new thing my kid wants. That doesn\'t mean I\'m not a musician... There are two parts to this business. #1 creating music and #2 profiting off of that creation. If you only wanna do #1 then don\'t get all bent out of shape cause you\'re getting no business results. I get up everyday and do it cause I\'m passionate and love music, but see I turned the business into an art form just like music. I expect every indie artist to profit just like I expect myself to profit if their putting a price tag on their record. People don\'t by music from just one artist! It\'s about visibility, not about major or indie. Of course majors have bigger budgets, but they had to earn that. Belittling??? Come on this is empowerment. It\'s about artists getting rid of this victim and \"poor powerless me\" mentality. If my product isn\'t selling I want to know WHY and I\'m going to stay awake till I and my team figure it out, THEN we FIX it! Not sitting their complaining that Target probably gave my 2009 release to Goodwill cause it wasn\'t selling lol. AND I WAS ON A LABEL with a marketing department! I\'m not belittling anyone, I\'m challenging them to step it up and be accountable for their brand. It\'s either step up or continue to get trampled on. Everyone isn\'t suited for this business, but don\'t sit here and tell me an artist from Sweden can\'t sell a record because there are 100\'s of thousands of indie artists in the world. Position yourself better than those others so that people see you first and spend their money with you before anyone else. So here is my hand to any indie involved in this conversation. I will GIVE you 30 MINUTES of my time over the phone FOR FREE to help you change your mindset from that of a victim to that of a warrior on the road to victory so you can position yourself for success. Hit me at hollandentertai nment@yahoo.com&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tony Robinson</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;I bet you any money cdbaby won\'t take up the last part of your message. Because they make big money from those sign up album fees and disc manufacturing regardless whether or not the artist sells any. Also they won\'t allow artists to give them away for free, we have already established that. How many artists on cdbaby do you think don\'t have a day job? I bet most of them do. How go you expect every independent artist to profit? There are 100\'s of thousands of them worldwide. The majority just want a little recognition, selling a couple of cd\'s to complete strangers means the world to them, do not belittle them. One day you could find yourself on the washed up, past it, no longer loved muso hill. Then you might remember what it was like being a musician again and not some kindof hard sell Gordon gekko style character where money is the only object.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Tony Robinson says: &quot;Hey ArtistLaunch business models must evolve or else the company dies. So if I pissed somebody off, it\'s probably because they aren\'t selling records, don\'t have a plan to sell records, and think that the music industry is the ONLY industry that doesn\'t need significant income to survive. That\'s one of the problems with the indie mindset. Many look at themselves as underdogs, which is BS. Nothing in the definition of \"Independent\" says independents don\'t sell product. I talk about the Indie mindset my book, The Ultimate Guide to Artist Development. I\'ll also be speaking at Millennium Music Conference this February on some of these same ideas. CD Baby isn\'t disrespecting their clients, I think that CD Baby is #1 a business who #1 objective is to profit. I think that if an indie artist puts his/her record on CD Baby website with a price tag, then their #1 objective SHOULD be to profit. If it\'s not, then keep your day job and give your albums away for free, cause this isn\'t the game for you to be playing.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tony Robinson</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Tony your comments are going to offend allot of people. The difference is cdbaby was never supposed to be Walmart it was a company for the underdog, the independent. You are saying there is no place for a large % of artists who are with cdbaby because they don\'t sell cd\'s but its ok for cdbaby to take the money. Lets be honest some artists are getting precious about cdbaby like its some sort of exclusive club. Well bollucks to that. There are other companies out there who don\'t have that opinion and will treat all independents with respect, whatever the sales stats. Michael I had nothing to do with the management of artistlaunch when it was a distributor. Read this page about the changes: http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/16-artistlaunch-evolving I will contact Paul laginess and see if he has any information I can pass on. ArtistLaunch... evolving www.artistlaunch.com ArtistLaunch - Underground & Alternative Music Publication, Online and live Music Promoter, Webcasting, Podcasting, Artist Launch Radio, Music Publication, Music Blog, Entertainment Channel.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Michael Sky says: &quot;I signed up with Artist Launch in 2006 to manufacture and distribute my first CD. I have never been contacted by ArtistLaunch as to any kind of update, seen any money or anything. I\'ve seen my CD on itunes etc. I have been told by friends they ordered my CD. There may have been sales but no money or contact with me. Can you please contact me and let me know where you are at. Peace&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Michael Sky</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Tony Robinson says: &quot;This is beyond stupid. If an artist or label sells their CDs at FYE, Walmart, or Target and they don\'t sell... then the store throws it in the bargin bin or \"trashes\" it. So what\'s the damn difference??? Perhaps YOU should SELL more records so CD Baby isn\'t tasked with deposing of your CD!!! I bet artists/labels selling records aren\'t getting those emails. This is the Recording Industry. Keyword INDUSTRY. Get your weight up.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tony Robinson</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Harry says: &quot;You are all fucking crazy, if you are so shit that you have no sales in 30 months, then take it on the chin, for fucks sake are you so hopeless, that your only fame is to now scream and shout because cd baby want to free up some space. Either fucking comply, or make something that people want you fucking losers&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Anthony Celi says: &quot;\"Well we think CD Baby can go fuck themselves and we advise independent artists to remove their music from this company that boasts about huge profits and then punishes the low earning artist community by holding their CD\'s to ransom.\" best part&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Anthony Celi</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Also cdbaby have only just cut the % from 25% to 9% on Digital Sales a few weeks ago: http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2013/01/cd-baby-slashes-rates-for-direct-digital-sales.html They have to keep the % below competitors and they will say they are giving you a better deal but for some artists losing half the stock will cancel out anything made on DD. An artist gets such a pathetically small amount for a download anyway and 0.01 for a stream you have to sell 10\'s of thousands to make any money. And that\'s the bottom line, don\'t try and tell Indy artists they will make money because the majority won\'t. After you pay for recording costs, equipment costs, disc makers for manufacture, cdbabys hosting site for your website, cdbaby\'s fee per album, cdbabys fee for bar codes, cdbaby\'s cut of sales, cdbaby\'s fees for you to have your cd\'s returned to you because you didn\'t sell more than a couple in a year, your not going to make any money. Lets go back to the beginning and be honest with the client, we provide you with tools to get your music out there but the chances are you will not profit from it.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;We have already said that if cdbaby think the cd is dead then they should change the name to ddbaby.com, which was sold to them by Derek Sivers, close the warehouse and become a solely digital distributor. The fact is though they won\'t make the profits they are making now, anyone can become a digital distributor. You can contact iTunes and all the others and setup distribution. In fact being a digital distributor has to be one of the easiest web startups going, as we showed when we exposed watunes a few years ago for the amateurs they were. There are massive profits to be made with selling cd\'s. cdbaby make $4 a cd, they charge $49 (not $39 like Stressman/Ramos said) per album. And allot of artists will use disc makers to manufacture the cd\'s. The irony of all this is disc makers won\'t tell an artist to hang on with ordering 100 cd\'s as we may have to recycle them in a year. They want to make as much money as possible, they will encourage you to manufacture as many cd\'s as possible and then the sister company cdbaby make you think your going to sell hundreds until you get an email telling you you haven\'t and now you need to fork out more money to have half of them redelivered or trashed. cdbaby need to make it clear on the signup page that an artist will have to sell more than a couple of cd\'s in the given timeframe otherwise they will make you take half back or they will recycle. We were big supporters of cdbaby, we just want the artist to get a fair deal and have all the relevant small print converted to large print. We can\'t stop the new policy but we can lobby cdbaby to try and get them to ease the policy. One month\'s notice for an artist to decide whether to have the cd\'s returned or recycled is not long enough. Can you not give them at least 6 months grace to make sure they can get the money together to have them returned? We also believe that artists who signed a different artist agreement when Derek Sivers owned the company should be treated differently to artists who signed up with disc makers. They would have had more cd\'s sent and at the time they would not have ever envisaged what is happening now. As these artists created the profits and expansion to cdbaby they should at least be offered the chance to give those cd\'s away for free on cdbaby. And cdbaby should not get a fee for it. The customer pays postage and thats all.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Stressman wrote, \"If they have been selling a few copies here and there, then chances are they never got an email telling them their stuff needed to be sent back/recycled. Tony said it only affected about 20% of their stock.\" This isn\'t the case the majority of the artists who have contacted us have said they have sold at least 1 cd in 12 months.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Annoyd Stressman says: &quot;\"After a $39 per album sign up fee, CD Baby charges artists 9% of each sale via a download store with no additional annual fee. TuneCore charges $49.99 per album initially and $49.99 each year thereafter, but does not take a percentage of sales.\" So an artist who sent 100 CDs to CD Baby \"when cdbaby first started\" 15 years ago would have paid Tunecore (if they offered physical distro) $800 by now, just to keep those 100 discs on their shelves. If they sold zero, all they would have paid CD Baby is about $30 (cuz set up was cheaper way back then) and CD Baby would have been dutifully caring for those 100 shiny coasters at the warehouse for a full decade and a half. Now, if an artist is so delusional that they think a CD that has not sold a single copy in 15 years is suddenly going to start selling by some miracle, then they probably won\'t mind paying the postage to have them returned, and I\'m quite sure the postage will cost a LOT less than $800. If they have been selling a few copies here and there, then chances are they never got an email telling them their stuff needed to be sent back/recycled. Tony said it only affected about 20% of their stock. If you ask me, CD Baby should just charge a small annual fee to warehouse this stuff. They certainly don\'t have to gouge the artists like Tunecore does (and they don\'t even HAVE TO PAY RENT for a warehouse,) but a little something each year to pay rent for the shelf space doesn\'t seem crazy. Maybe the fee gets waived if the disc is a good mover. That way dead weight still pays its own freight. We\'re moving to a totally digital world, we may see lots more CDs turning into coasters in the months ahead. The fact that CD Baby hasn\'t been charging an annual fee all these years while maintaining a huge warehouse full of millions of CDs is truly remarkable.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Annoyd Stressman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Richard Che Murphy says: &quot;I been putting cds on CD baby since 2003...And my 2003 album is not selling like it used to (it\'s 10 years old)...But CD baby still has it in stock&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Richard Che Murphy</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Scott, good for you you sell enough cd\'s i hope you dont get the email telling you. You have to remember that when cdbaby first started they took whatever amount of cd\'s you wanted to give them. Some artists are now faced with quite a hefty postage to get their property back.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;There is nothing on cdbabys sign up page about any of this. \"Worldwide distribution for $49 an album. Start selling your CD online, and in thousands of real record stores around the globe. We\'ll stock, ship, and process every order. All you need to do is cash the check!\" That is misleading. There needs to be clear and concise information telling new artists that if they sign up and submit bulk cd\'s that they will have to sell more than 2 in 6 months otherwise they will have to pay to have their property returned to them or they will destroy the cd\'s.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Scott Brookman says: &quot;I didn\'t get that email. I GOT PAID! Seriously? Are they supposed to keep unsold crap for ever? What kind of business model would that be? CdBaby only keeps small numbers of your disc on hand. The return postage to the artist wouldn\'t be all that much of a hardship to the artist. This article (and, er, sales pitch for a competitor) is way over the top reactionary and distorted. Don\'t believe it.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Scott Brookman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Richard Che Murphy says: &quot;CD baby has always been good 2 me....FLAT&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Richard Che Murphy</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Bye, bye..&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Annoyd Stressman says: &quot;\"Dangerous PRESIDENT???\" holy crap you are KILLIN me chuckles. \"Lack of compassion\" eh? Does CD Baby charge any annual fees or rental charges to all those artists who have had CDs stored on their shelves for YEARS? Do other companies charge as much as $40 per year for the same service? There\'s your compassion. Why don\'t you try going after the REAL bad guys instead of simply attacking your competitors. CD Baby is one of the rare companies in this business that has consistently supported the indie artists. I think I\'m done with you at this point. It seems to me you just love to hear yourself type, and you\'d most likely keep this sad rant going forever if you get any sort of reaction.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Annoyd Stressman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Derek Sivers suggested to us that cdbaby should allow the artists to give those cd's away for free. Tony said they had thought about that suggestion but what we worry about is they may also be thinking that they can get rid of what they consider to be 'poor quality' music or recordings. That would set a dangerous president, people thought the 'Sex Pistols' were talent-less filth, history proves them wrong. I hope this was not a culling and a case of there's no more room in the warehouse, like they are telling us. Otherwise they should be advertising themselves as a record label, not a distributor. A record label will cherry pick talent, a distributor is paid to store and distribute.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/editorial/517-cd-baby-boast-about-sales-and-then-trash-half-your-cds#comment-546</link>
			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;It is really incredible to hear the lack of compassion some people have for the fact that hundreds of cdbaby artists can not afford to have cd\'s sent back to them and have to watch as years of hard earned money, work and creativity are recycled. And to have to listen to people try and justify it as being kind to the environment. One month was simply not long enough for many artists to raise the money to have their property returned to them. They have already paid out a great deal of money to cdbaby, they deserved better customer support. This should have been discussed more with the artists and cdbaby should have been more humble and apologized. Maybe if they had been more humane in the delivery of this news more artists could have had time to digest it. I respect Tony for giving his side of the story but he really needs to think about ditching some of these mad cronies that are trying to make out they are an oracle on Indie music because it\'s damaging his and his companies reputation.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;I can't believe you went to so much trouble to come up with absolutely nothing. It's so hilarious I'm going to consider taking out a promotion and ad for this on facebook so thousands of people get to read it. How could I ban you now after you have spent the last 6 hours drafting and preparing such a marvelous piece of work. Just one point though Noel, you could have found someone slightly more mentally stable to post on your behalf. Also we would never have banned or deleted any post Tony posted because he is actually someone important, unlike yourself or Mr Grumpy Stressman, who are just two very sad individuals. Please continue to vent your frustrations I know it's both your time of the month. We will concentrate on highlighting genuine grievances artists have with cdbaby's recent actions.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Annoyd Stressman says: &quot;Of course you\'ll ban me, I\'m sure you\'ll ban anyone who disagrees with you and exposes the truth about your mudslinging. That\'s your only real goal here - stir up controversy with some fraudulent claims, get some attention for yourself with your phony \"oh we\'re only doing this to help the artists\" crap... \"inappropriate behavior???\" Look in the mirror chuckles. The way I learned about this farce was from a blog post that explained how SIMPLE it was to learn the truth, and how completely FALSE your original claims were. Apparently all it took was a couple of quick emails and some ACTUAL RESEARCH. Y\'know... REAL journalism. From the IMC Blog... \"On 1/21/13 a Facebook user with the profile name of \"artistlaunch\" posted an article attacking a company that they are admittedly in competition with. The obvious smear campaign is based on false accusations, hearsay and rumor. In it they spout insults and fraudulent claims, and make specious leaps of logic such as: \"CD Baby boasts about sales and then trashes half your stock!\" \"cdbaby update: they are now winning prizes for trashing your cd\'s.\" \"So lets be clear, cdbaby consider independent artists cd\'s as waste that need to be disposed of, something to be cracked down on, they even win prizes for it...\" \"CDbaby are nothing without Derek Sivers... A sham of a company. \" \"Also we are being told that cdbaby are making money recycling the cd\'s, being paid per tonnage. Is this true? I would imagine you are going to have a large stock of cd\'s you are going to recycle. How much money are you going to make from recycling someone else\'s property? Also we are being told that artists put in requests a month ago to have stock returned and cdbaby have still not returned them... why?\" I have 15 years of experience with CD Baby to call upon in terms of their integrity, and trustworthy business dealings. So I posted replies in their defense, calling into question the lack of proof, lack of proper research and logical leaps in the article and subsequent comments from \"artistlaunch.\" This immediately resulted in insults, hate speech and libel aimed at me as well. \"artistlaunch\" later blocked me and deleted all my responses. I alerted Tony van Veen of CD Baby and he graciously joined the thread and attempted to clear up the false information. I also contacted the City of Portland \"Recycle at Work\" program and received an immediate reply, including proof that \"artistlaunch\'s\" claims are false: ---- On Jan 23, 2013, at 2:56 PM, City of Portland \"Recycle at Work\" program wrote: \"In response to your question: Did the City of Portland encourage CD Baby to recycle artists\' property as part of the consultation process during the \"Recycle at Work\" program? Were the CDs included in the \"crack down on waste?\" The answer is no. Sustainability at Work is a volunteer program that helps local businesses gain recognition for their sustainability efforts. With CD Baby, our Sustainability at Work Advisor reviewed a checklist of different actions they could take/were taking to achieve certification in our program. With regards to recycling, we did confirm that they have the correct recycling systems set up in their office space and warehouse for their mixed recycling collection. As far as their company policies around CD retention/stock limitations, that is not something we are involved in. For more information on our program, please visit www.sustainabilityatworkpdx.org, where you can also find our checklists.\" ---- All the research I needed to do was a couple of quick inquiries to Tony van Veen of CD Baby and also the City of Portland’s sustainability advisor, who worked with CD Baby to help them become more ecologically responsible, to learn that the \"artistlaunch\" article was nothing more than an ugly smear campaign designed to harm their competitor\'s reputation. Here they are trying to do the right thing and become more responsible and effective with their recycling efforts, and what do they get for it? Some \"entertainment site\" writes a libelous attack piece and starts a smear campaign! No good deed... If \"artistlaunch\" had made even the most basic of efforts to be responsible journalists, they could have easily learned the truth just as I did. Instead, they chose to post sensationalisti c and pointless attacks against CD Baby in the hopes of capitalizing on the controversy they tried to stir up. When I responded to the false claims, they blocked me and deleted all my comments. However, Tony took my advice and also responded in the same thread, and fortunately, they thought better of it before also deleting his posts. However, their unacceptable insults and attacks against me can still be seen lingering in the thread, more proof that they are not what they pretend to be. If you want to read my responses, I believe most of them are still visible in the comments of the actual article, linked above. Indies need REAL advocates. People who are motivated by a genuine and sincere desire to help others. They don\'t need self-serving muckrakers whose only goal is their own unethical efforts.\" Sustainability At Work - Portland, Oregon - Providing Tools to Create a More Sustainable Work Enviro www.sustainabilityatworkpdx.com Free resources for Portland businesses looking to create a more sustainable workplace&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Annoyd Stressman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Thank you for your comment, we have lots of emails just like this but we can't publish them because the artists don't want people to know what their cd sales are.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;And we haven\'t censored Noel his comments can be read on the article on artistlaunch.com, we banned him from our facebook page for inappropriate behavior and when you block someone the posts are removed. Which is btw what we are going to do to you if you continue your psychobabble.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Seriously we are quite worried about you as your profile says you only have 18 friends and you only seem to vent fury on your posts. Do you have a mental illness by any chance?&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Annoyd Stressman says: &quot;YOU are immaterial.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Annoyd Stressman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;quote: \"How we reached that eventuality is immaterial because we got a result\" Who\'s ranting and raving now? maybe thats why you call yourself Mr Stressman? stress is bad for you, you need a girlfriend or something.. Your in Amsterdam, try smoking some skunk to calm you down.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Annoyd Stressman says: &quot;YOU got Tony to come here??? What a farce, you lying POS. Yes I am friends with the IMC. That\'s how I learned about your lame little \"magazine\" or whatever the hell you\'re supposed to be. The SAME WAY Tony learned about this thread and the ONLY reason he came here to post. Try telling the truth for once. But you\'d rather rant and rave, and CENSOR anyone who calls you on your bullshit.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Annoyd Stressman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Scott says: &quot;Super bummed about CD Baby's policy change on CDs that are not selling enough, taking up space. I've been a customer pre-Disc Maker buyout when this policy didn't exist. One of my releases has 2 left in stock and they want to send one back to me or it will be recycled. Another one of my CDs is out of print and they want to do the same with 4 of them. I already paid to send them to CD Baby and they want me to pay to have them returned to myself. So I'm forced to recycle since I can't sell them and make a profit when returned. This seems really wrong to me. With every new album release on CD Baby we have made sales from our older catalog as well. We release a new album every three years. The thing I don't understand is that I learned about CD Baby from Disc Makers who manufacture our albums. After a long discussion with my bandmates, we are going to only use digital distribution for our new release in 2013. This means both CD Baby and Disc Makers lose money. When we did the math, our band will make more money and we can see that our digital sales will eventually move past our physical media sales. It was nice to have both, I will admit. This is stressful for musicians.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;In the early days there wasn't so much of a limit. I remember we were sending boxes with 100 content to cdbaby. I think a lot of artists setup albums when Derek owned the company and then basically forgot about them and turned to digital releases. I don't think anyone thought it was going to be a problem in the future and no one likes to admit their cd's haven't sold. I think a manufacture on demand service is a good idea and could solve the problem for independent artists who won't realistically shift large amounts of cd's.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Tony Van Veen says: &quot;We actually tell artists exactly how many CDs they should send, even on a re-stock order. Many artists send more than we ask for, which is one of the reasons we're doing this returns process. A manufacture on demand service is something in the early discussion stages.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tony Van Veen</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;What is sad is there are many artists who contacted us who won\'t complain to cdbaby or on facebook etc because they don\'t want people to know they haven\'t sold more than a couple of cd\'s in a year. Some of them have excellent Digital Distribution stats but the promoting of physical media has been shoddy and overlooked. It\'s damaging to an artists confidence when they are told that because you haven\'t sold many cd\'s you have to have them back. If it had been a sale or return agreement when they signed up then fair enough. But it seems many people simply missed out on seeing the changes to cdbaby and now they feel shunned. The obvious advice at this juncture would be for cdbaby to place limits on the amount of cd\'s it can store for you and for artists to limit manufacturing to short runs, unless they have definite pre-orders. In fact it would probably be better if the order went straight to a manufacturer rather than a warehouse. That would be the only true way of getting rid of waste in the cd industry. Only manufacture what is paid for and ordered. No more waste, no more stacks of unused and unwanted products.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;I see your bumchums with IMC, did Noel Ramos send you over to say that? Fact is douchebag, we got results by getting the CEO of cdbaby on here to explain his companies actions. How we reached that eventuality is immaterial because we got a result. If we had merely republished cdbaby\'s blog and not kicked up a fuss, they would never have realised the strength of feeling many of cdbaby\'s clients have in regard this matter.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Annoyd Stressman says: &quot;That article sucks balls. CDBaby is awesome. ArtistRaunch is not.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Annoyd Stressman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Jack Hammer says: &quot;Excellent, informative article.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Jack Hammer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Tony van Veen says: &quot;Ok cool. And if you\'re looking for distribution partners in the future, message me. I\'m happy to have a conversation about whether CD Baby could be the right partner for you.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tony van Veen</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Ok, fair enough.. You have answered the questions put to us and thank you for taking time to do that. We are not going to continue bashing cdbaby it\'s counter productive. At the end of the day you make company decisions and your customers and clients decide whether or not to accept them by either staying or finding a different company to work with.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Tony van Veen says: &quot;It may be true that an artist who sold 2 CDs was contacted. If so, it was unrelated. We occasionally have overstock on product -- just too much inventory. If so we co tact the client and offer to return the excess product. Happens on occasion, and routinely. And, as I said, not related to what you had your original beef with. We don\'t make money on recycling the discs. We pay, plus it costs us money to pull all the discs for returns or recycling. Trust me, this is not a money making exercise. As far as why any individual artist may not yet have gotten their product back, beats me. They can contact our awesome customer service team at cdbaby@cdbaby.com with their info, and our peeps will get them an answer.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tony van Veen</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Music Industry Scams Part One</title>
			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/inquisitor/520-music-industry-scams-part-one#comment-526</link>
			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Do check out Roses\'s music, she is awesome!&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://www.artistlaunch.com/inquisitor/520-music-industry-scams-part-one#comment-525</link>
			<description><![CDATA[camera says: &quot;Some sound advice there 8)&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>camera</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Tony van Veen, we are being told that artists who have sold 2 cd's a year are being sent emails telling them to either allow you to recycle half their stock or have them returned, client pays. Is this true? Also we are being told that cdbaby are making money recycling the cd's, being paid per tonnage. Is this true? I would imagine you are going to have a large stock of cd's you are going to recycle. How much money are you going to make from recycling someone else's property? Also we are being told that artists put in requests a month ago to have stock returned and cdbaby have still not returned them... why?&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Firstly we would like to remind everyone that artistlaunch has always supported cdbaby since it first began. Example article: http://artistlaunch.com/editorial/369-beware-of-omds-a-omps When we were an online music distributor we manufactured and sent hundreds of cd's to cdbaby from artists we promoted on radio/podcasts and our website. We have always defended cdbaby even when Derek Sivers decided to sell to DiscMakers. cdbaby has made some good money from the promotion and disc's we have sent them over the years. We have as a company, started in 1999, always defended the interests of Independent Artists. If we get sent emails telling us a company is ripping them off or doing anything which seems morally wrong we will act upon it. As ArtistLaunch is close to coming back into the music distribution business we will examine and scrutanize the companies who are currently serving this model. It makes sense to learn from other companies mistakes. We think cdbaby have made a mistake, like allot of distributors. We believe there is room for competition in this market. We believe the demand for physical media is still there. We believe it is possible to find ways of promoting Independent artists without saturating the Indie market and that is what we think cdbaby have done. They are too big now to meet the demands of the underground independent music scene. We will address some of the issues raised in comments by Tony later after checking some info just sent us by someone on the inside. But someone gag Mr Ramos, his rabid ego-stroking is proving nothing.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Noël Ramos says: &quot;Since the article\'s page seems to be updating itself with these Facebook responses, I\'m going to reply here to \"marc\" who does not remember being informed that the CD Baby agreement had been updated... \"i save all my emails to cd or dvd and thinking maybe i missed that email, maybe my bad, i went back and searched for it and found no email notifying me of the 2008 agreement change. i even thoroughly searched their website which the blogs only go back to july 2009 and my inbox-and even the net and found nothing.\" Here\'s a tip regarding internet TOS (Terms Of Service) agreements: Always count on them having a clause that reads something like this... ---- \"1. Changes to this Agreement From time to time, we may change this Agreement. We will provide you with thirty (30) calendar days notice of material changes via either your Member Account e-mail address or any other email address you provide. It is your responsibility to check for any such notices. Your continued subscription to the Service after the effective date of the change constitutes your acceptance of such changes.\" ---- And in fact, CD Baby\'s TOS includes this clause: \"(e) Modification of the Service. CD Baby may modify the CD Baby Service at any time with or without notice to you, and will incur no liability for doing so.\" And this clause: \"9. Notice. All notices required or permitted to be given under these TOS will be in writing and delivered to the other party by any of the following methods: ... (iii) electronic mail. All notices will be deemed received as follows: ... (iii) if by electronic mail, 24 hours after the message was sent, if no \"system error\" or other notice of non-delivery is generated. If applicable law requires that a given communication be \"in writing,\" you agree that email communication will satisfy this requirement.\" Ultimately this is a non-issue. CD Baby is doing business as they need to, and also trying to be environmentally and effectively conservationist . I think they\'ve gone above and beyond here, especially in light of Tony\'s personal involvement with this thread. Some companies charge ANNUAL FEES just for the privilege of parking a few CDs on their shelves, and you can\'t really blame them. They pay rent on that space. CD Baby has always delivered more bang for the buck than most of their competition.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Noël Ramos</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Tony Van Veen says: &quot;Ehm, I didn\'t mean to say cassette above. I guess I\'ve been around too long. I meant download and streaming music. But you knew that, right?&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tony Van Veen</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Tony Van Veen says: &quot;\"Streaks ahead\" is a matter of opinion. For all I know they may be, in the way that Rush is streaks ahead of Ke$ha. But Ke$ha is selling a shitload more music today. We\'re not here to validate or deny artistic merit. That\'s why we accept every artist who wants to plunk down $49 for global distribution of their CD and cassette. Every artist has merit to their fans. As to why some artists sell less music now than they did years ago, well, as we all know there can be MANY reasons for that. Just like there are MANY reasons why other artists sell MORE music today than they did years ago. CD Baby has worked hard to make more channels available for artists to sell music. When artists sell more, we do better. I can\'t do anything about the gap between best sellers and forefathers. New titles always move faster than catalog/legacy titles. Plus, CD Baby is a pipeline to the market. We\'re not a promoter. We\'ve worked hard to enlarge the pipe over the past 4 years, and have done so successfully. But at our core we continue to rely on the artist to create the core demand for their music. We just make it easy to fulfill that demand.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tony Van Veen</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Noël Ramos says: &quot;Now there is suddenly an entirely NEW "key point." I think you should write another sensationalisti c "editorial" about this new topic. You can title it "I Have No Proof, but CD Baby Is Out To Get You!"&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Noël Ramos</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Tony Van Veen says: &quot;No artist whose title sells 2 CDs a year is being contacted. I\'m talking about clients who have sold 0 (that\'s zero, as in zilch) CDs in 2.5 years. I don\'t know what \"mainstream catalogue\" you\'re alluding to, because all our content is 100% independent. And we\'ve spent significant efforts finding other ways to make artists money, including our sync licensing program that we launched last year, which we don\'t charge extra for, that pays artists who get their tunes licensed for film. And our Facebook Musicstore app we developed that allows artists to sell music off their own FB page.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tony Van Veen</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Amy Otey says: &quot;Nothing but praise for CD Baby from me. As an independent artist - I rely on them as a major distribution point. I would have no problem with them requesting to pay shipping on remainder inventory - in fact - this policy is industry-wide with many wholesalers. CD Baby\'s policy is much more generous and more artist friendly than any other I have ever worked with. No other distributor I know of will hold on to dead inventory for 30 mos! Perhaps the real question is - why isn\'t your inventory moving!&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Amy Otey</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[marc says: &quot;\"We did indeed change some terms to the artist agreement, way back in 2008, anticipating that at some point we may run out of warehouse space. And we notified all our artists at that time that the agreement was changed, and that they could opt out.\" i save all my emails to cd or dvd and thinking maybe i missed that email, maybe my bad, i went back and searched for it and found no email notifying me of the 2008 agreement change. i even thoroughly searched their website which the blogs only go back to july 2009 and my inbox-and even the net and found nothing.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 23:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;The key point here is artists who signed up when Derek was in control seem to have sold more cd\'s than when disc makers took over. But some artists who signed up when disc makers took over are doing very well. The gap between the best sellers and the forefathers is the worrying thing here. Because I can tell you for a fact that some of those bands who are not selling cd\'s are streaks ahead in quality compared to some of your best sellers.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[artistlaunch says: &quot;Mr Ramos you are boring us now, go away you irritating little man.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>artistlaunch</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[marc says: &quot;"CD Baby artists agree when they sign up with us that we reserve the right to return or recycle non-selling disc content." there was never anything mentioned about return or recycle at the time of sign up.&quot;]]></description>
			<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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